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Ahad · Sep 21, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

..and as I have a couple of max level characters I was wondering if you have to have the expansion packs to be effective?

I know the level cap hasn't increased but does the gear/ new skills you get from the expansion pack areas make the "old world" stuff useless?

Spazzer · Sep 21, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

Return, but don't buy eye of the north. A Powerstone of Courage or two is not worth $40.

Nabru Yar · Sep 21, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

IMHO, no-- you're probably fine with the equipment you have atm... but, depending on the lvl of time you've been "absent" from the game, you'll find some things have changed i.e. more storage, skill tmplates, HEROES, etc.

My advice is to read up on the recent updates. Then, welcome back and enjoy!

Ahad · Sep 21, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

I stopped playing at the end of 2005, I guess thing have changed quite abit since then, but from what I remember I had some pretty good gear on my monk (removed GW from my comp months ago).

Toutatis · Sep 21, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

No, you don't need the other campaigns or the expansion to be effective. If you have Prophecies, that's the campaign that many of the more successful builds (both PvE and PvP) tend to focus around so you're pretty much set.

The "old world" stuff is still relevant, and still very widely used. Adding in more chapters of the GW saga will give you some extra professions/skills to play with, but they're far from necessary.

Spazzer · Sep 21, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by Ahad

I stopped playing at the end of 2005, I guess thing have changed quite abit since then, but from what I remember I had some pretty good gear on my monk (removed GW from my comp months ago).

Oh yeah? Then you'll probably want to get Nightfall for the Heroes.

Shadowfox1125 · Sep 21, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Yeah, then you would have missed out on NF. Go buy that instead of GW:EN

Aera Lure · Sep 21, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Agreed. Go pick up NF at least.

EternalTempest · Sep 21, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

I do like factions... but it will be very hard to find pug's there.
Better off getting NF/GW:EOTN so you can get hero's build up skill selection, then getting Factions and doing it Hero/Hench or with friends/guild.

Think of GW:Eotn a bunch of add-on content for lvl 20 characters with a short story in it.

glountz · Sep 21, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Don't return. Unless you've still plenty of friends, or are a no-life, you missed many things and won't be able to complete (or to compete in PVP) until GW2 comes out (when it will be available, most people will quit GW1). In addition, the game is experiencing lot of issues (dead PvP, lag, 12 yr old PVE carebears as a playerbase, etc..).

Mordakai · Sep 21, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13

I assume you are a PvPer? If so, can't offer any advice.

If you enjoy PvE, you have two choices: Buy Nightfall or Buy GWEN.

Your choice depends on what style of play you prefer. If you enjoy a longer game, with very hard end-game content, and Heros you need to unlock and level up on the way, then Nightfall is for you.

If you enjoy a shorter campaign, moderate end-game content, and max level heros, then GWEN is your best buy.

drago34 · Sep 21, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by glountz

Don't return. Unless you've still plenty of friends, or are a no-life, you missed many things and won't be able to complete (or to compete in PVP) until GW2 comes out (when it will be available, most people will quit GW1). In addition, the game is experiencing lot of issues (dead PvP, lag, 12 yr old PVE carebears as a playerbase, etc..).

Because he asked for your opinion on whether or not to return right? Oh wait nope, just because your way into pvp doesn't mean that OP is. Yay for replies that aren't thought out like yours.

Rocky Raccoon · Sep 21, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35

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Originally Posted by glountz

Don't return. Unless you've still plenty of friends, or are a no-life, you missed many things and won't be able to complete (or to compete in PVP) until GW2 comes out (when it will be available, most people will quit GW1). In addition, the game is experiencing lot of issues (dead PvP, lag, 12 yr old PVE carebears as a playerbase, etc..).

Don't listen to opinions like the above, as they are just plain ignorant. If you enjoyed the game before you will still like it. The suggestions that you pickup Nightfall for the heroes are good. There are still plenty of good people still playing the game, most of who don't post on fan forums. Welcome back and enjoy the game.

Darkobra · Sep 21, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by glountz

Don't return. Unless you've still plenty of friends, or are a no-life, you missed many things and won't be able to complete (or to compete in PVP) until GW2 comes out (when it will be available, most people will quit GW1). In addition, the game is experiencing lot of issues (dead PvP, lag, 12 yr old PVE carebears as a playerbase, etc..).

GW2 is coming out in a week? Sweet. Well, that's how long it takes to complete all the games if you know what you're doing or with some one who does. And PVP is far better in other games. Less whiners.

darktyco · Sep 21, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

If you like GW, you will be glad you came back. I agree that you should get NF or EotN next. Even though I like the content in EotN the most, Nightfall might be a better choice as you can get some heroes right off the bat to help you, and it comes with many more and better skills than EotN.

Fitz Rinley · Sep 21, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Well, I am enjoying GWEN when I play it. The story telling is much more effective. The scenery is well done. The ineraction is fantastic. And the heroes you get there are maxed. (GWEN gives you just as good a hero set as NF, btw.)

I don't PvP except to occasionally open a skill I need. And most GWEN skills are PvE only. I found some, like Shell Shock, really make a difference. I never found any value to playing an Air Ele until Shell Shock was available, for example.

My Sweet Revenga · Sep 21, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

pros/cons

Prophecies - best core storyline - long time to level up
Factions - best looking armour sets - short, hard to find good pugs
Nightfall - get heroes to help replace pugs, worms!!!! - armour sets are so so with some reskins, some grinding, dunno I found the campaign kinda dull.
GWEN - new exciting gameplay elements, more content for lvl20s - too short, grindfest, blatent reskinned armours galore!, heroes get wayyyyyy better armour than you >_<

Alex Morningstar · Sep 22, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

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Originally Posted by Ahad

..and as I have a couple of max level characters I was wondering if you have to have the expansion packs to be effective?

I know the level cap hasn't increased but does the gear/ new skills you get from the expansion pack areas make the "old world" stuff useless?

PvP - Factions, Nightfall and GWEN add skills that people will be using on you. If you only have one campaign, that will make PvP tricky, though not impossible I am sure.

PvE - Whatever worked before will still work now. I would suggest buying Nightfall or GWEN for Heros and more content. It isn't like the good old days in prophecies where you could pug around the map and have a chance of getting a successful group. Now the only pugs out there are the kids too retarded to properly configure their heros and need help. Though there are the occasional oddball player that wants company.

But if they want the company of the former, they too have issues.

Sep 21, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52	#1
Ahad Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	Thinking of Returning.. ..and as I have a couple of max level characters I was wondering if you have to have the expansion packs to be effective? I know the level cap hasn't increased but does the gear/ new skills you get from the expansion pack areas make the "old world" stuff useless?

Sep 21, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54	#2
Spazzer Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Guild: Team Asshat [Hat] Profession: Mo/E	Return, but don't buy eye of the north. A Powerstone of Courage or two is not worth $40.

Sep 21, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57	#3
Nabru Yar Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: E/	IMHO, no-- you're probably fine with the equipment you have atm... but, depending on the lvl of time you've been "absent" from the game, you'll find some things have changed i.e. more storage, skill tmplates, HEROES, etc. My advice is to read up on the recent updates. Then, welcome back and enjoy!

Sep 21, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04	#4
Ahad Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	I stopped playing at the end of 2005, I guess thing have changed quite abit since then, but from what I remember I had some pretty good gear on my monk (removed GW from my comp months ago).

Sep 21, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04	#5
Toutatis Walking Wiki Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Isle of Medication Guild: Visitors from Aranna [VFA] Profession: Me/E	No, you don't need the other campaigns or the expansion to be effective. If you have Prophecies, that's the campaign that many of the more successful builds (both PvE and PvP) tend to focus around so you're pretty much set. The "old world" stuff is still relevant, and still very widely used. Adding in more chapters of the GW saga will give you some extra professions/skills to play with, but they're far from necessary.

Sep 21, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12	#7
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	Yeah, then you would have missed out on NF. Go buy that instead of GW:EN

Sep 21, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36	#8
Aera Lure Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In Baltar's head Guild: Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS] Profession: Mo/	Agreed. Go pick up NF at least.

Sep 21, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47	#9
EternalTempest Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: United States Guild: Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM] Profession: E/	I do like factions... but it will be very hard to find pug's there. Better off getting NF/GW:EOTN so you can get hero's build up skill selection, then getting Factions and doing it Hero/Hench or with friends/guild. Think of GW:Eotn a bunch of add-on content for lvl 20 characters with a short story in it.

Sep 21, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03	#10
glountz Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/Mo	Don't return. Unless you've still plenty of friends, or are a no-life, you missed many things and won't be able to complete (or to compete in PVP) until GW2 comes out (when it will be available, most people will quit GW1). In addition, the game is experiencing lot of issues (dead PvP, lag, 12 yr old PVE carebears as a playerbase, etc..).

Sep 21, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13	#11
Mordakai Grotto Attendant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kyhlo Profession: W/	I assume you are a PvPer? If so, can't offer any advice. If you enjoy PvE, you have two choices: Buy Nightfall or Buy GWEN. Your choice depends on what style of play you prefer. If you enjoy a longer game, with very hard end-game content, and Heros you need to unlock and level up on the way, then Nightfall is for you. If you enjoy a shorter campaign, moderate end-game content, and max level heros, then GWEN is your best buy.

Sep 21, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49	#15
darktyco Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2006	If you like GW, you will be glad you came back. I agree that you should get NF or EotN next. Even though I like the content in EotN the most, Nightfall might be a better choice as you can get some heroes right off the bat to help you, and it comes with many more and better skills than EotN.

Sep 21, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57	#16
Fitz Rinley Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: The Rusty Rose Profession: W/Mo	Well, I am enjoying GWEN when I play it. The story telling is much more effective. The scenery is well done. The ineraction is fantastic. And the heroes you get there are maxed. (GWEN gives you just as good a hero set as NF, btw.) I don't PvP except to occasionally open a skill I need. And most GWEN skills are PvE only. I found some, like Shell Shock, really make a difference. I never found any value to playing an Air Ele until Shell Shock was available, for example.

Sep 21, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#17
My Sweet Revenga Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: R/	pros/cons Prophecies - best core storyline - long time to level up Factions - best looking armour sets - short, hard to find good pugs Nightfall - get heroes to help replace pugs, worms!!!! - armour sets are so so with some reskins, some grinding, dunno I found the campaign kinda dull. GWEN - new exciting gameplay elements, more content for lvl20s - too short, grindfest, blatent reskinned armours galore!, heroes get wayyyyyy better armour than you >_<